Bobster no one should own a handgun unless they meet New York standards. Now if they can pass all that shit, go ahead cause it is a good guy packing. I wish the feds would pass that law. Like I said we have to have the same BG tests and the same skills as a state police officer. And they will not give you a conceal carry permit unless you do have just cause. That one is not easy at all to get. I have one .. but they don't issue many. Hunting with a handgun takes a lot of skill. Many sportsman like myself hunted deer with a handgun since in my county up until last year, you could only use a shotgun or handgun if you had a license. Now semi auto handguns, designed only for defense is correct, however it is the weapon of choice for competitive shooters. There is a long history of semi auto sports shooting. The US government started competitions after WWI and would actually give medals for citizen skills .. How things have changed. Although you don't think so, I am on your side and so is most sportsmen. WE don't want bad guys getting these things. Now for the AR, I don't understand why anyone wants one. A semi auto AR or AK is like having a pocket watch with no dial. If a collector wants one get a real one with a Class III FFL.   Then you can go out and get a ma duece.