Sorry i meant Stan &Greg Hastings the name was stans idea from the black swan perths emblem many of which on the river swan &perth water .There was a whistle player called olwen and an irish guy with a mexican type moustache who played mandolin i regret i cant recall his name he was in a band with eric kowalski at the same pub in fremantle indeed we got the gig on thier coattails.Good luck with your research Don.