Scotland has consistently been told it was too poor to rule itself and that it was being subsidised by England. That myth has now been destroyed and the reverse is true so sound economics ia a strong base for discussion re the referendum. I don't understand your argument, Musket, about Westminster and revenue from North Sea oil. If Scotland becomes independent then the revenue from its waters belong to Scotland. Musket, you are employing the same scare and unfounded tactics highlighted by this thread. Who are the polititions and their goons who stuff their face on tax payers' money? Real arguments are valid not negative scare sories .... stay as we are, "we're better together" under a Tory led government chosen by the majority of English voters. The argument put forward by some Labour supporters is that after independence, England would have a permanent Tory majority. We are still in the Union but have a Tory led government with one Tory MP in Scotland so that argument holds no water.