I just noticed that the thread was started by MacKenzie. I've seen him in a kilt. It's no wonder he wanted to change the subject. I saw a beautiful tartan walking along and thought someone had dressed an ostrich. He scared the geese and that bloody big dog of unknown parentage actually hid. Leave it to Giok to get people arguing over beer. Bunch of wankers. Beer, all of it, is horse piss. You want something, try muscatel at room temperature. That'll put hair on yer ass.