The problem mr McGrath, is that many of the most illiberal people on this board would define themselves as liberals.

The examples of immigration controls and the place of homosexuality in society are controvercial issues with vadid arguments for and against.....however, some "liberals" apear to be on a mission to enforce their agenda and no alternative veiwpoint is tolerated.

These people seem to think that by hiding behind the notion of "equality" in a system that is patently based on inequality, anything is permissable and should not be questioned,