Thank you for that little outburst Joe - it clears the air no end.
I have never as you claim referred to "the The Catholic Church that is part of who I am, is evil", neither do I believe it.
If you are as honest as you claim to be you will either show where I have or will withdraw your accusation and apologise.
That the Church hierarchy has carried out evil acts is beyond dispute - the covering up of child rape and passing the perpetrators on to fresh field and pastures new, thus allowing them to continue their practices is as evil as evil as it gets.
The continual denial of access of documents so the survivors of those abuses are unable to get closure comes a pretty close second.
Not far behind is the relegation of these crimes to "the past", which leaves the door open for the whole bloody affair to start all over again because they have been forgotten.
How dare you describe me or anybody else as a bigot because the behaviour of the church make us wish that these things never happen again and try to prevent them doing so by attepting to show what has been and is still shrouded in secrecy.
It is those who put a statute of limitations on such abuses who are the greatest bigots.
You never responded to the link I produced; did you even bother to read it. I didn't really expect you to; the continuing suffering of survivors of long-term abuse does not appear to interest you.
My definition of 'the church' takes in the rank and file faithful who give support and follow its teachings, including those who were betrayed and defiled by its officers. Thes include family members and dear, sometime lifelong frieds and aquaintences.
"And don't say I defend the massacre of 3,500 unarmed refugees. You fucking liar."
I never claimed you did and if you don't withdraw the accusation, it is you who is the fucking liar.
If you hadn't become so apoplecticly defensive about all this you might have read what I wrote - I suggest you put your head between your knees, take a few deep breaths and do so again.
Your bullying and aggressively hectoring attitude here sums up the reception that greeted many of the abuse victims when they finally had the courage to reveal what happened to them, thank you for giving such a clear example
Just as with the abuse, the churches historical relationship with dictators and human rights abusers speaks for itself, and that too has no statute of limitations, especially as one of those who may have been involve has just been elected pope. At the very least, your followers have the right to know.
Jim Carroll