Don't get all prickly with me, Don. I didn't say for one millisecond that you weren't allowed your beliefs, nor did I do any belittling. I simply proposed an alternative way of viewing the universe as one without a purpose imposed on it. As we have no evidence for a purpose (and a fair bit of evidence that the universe might one day end in a bit of a splutter - what price purpose then?), I'd say that it was a valid view. Just as unknowable as yours. My universe, innocent of purpose, doesn't require a God, that's all. That'll do me. Whatever stirs your loins in these realms of the unknowable, eh?