The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #149974   Message #3492548
Posted By: Steve Shaw
20-Mar-13 - 08:32 AM
Thread Name: BS: What is 'Heaven and Hell'?
Subject: RE: BS: What is 'Heaven and Hell'?
I think everyone on this thread had equally valid things to say about Heaven and Hell, though Steve Shaw seems to have confused the concept of Heaven with that of pleasure and Hell with mild discomfort. But if you wanted his beliefs about those things you got it poetically and in spades. Steve seems to be a person who has intense feelings about mundane things and seems happy with that range of emotional experience. I see nothing wrong with that.

Well this works only if you are so rigid in your own concept of heaven and hell that you can only operate by trying to align alternative views with your own, finding they don't fit, then firing imperialist barbs. My starting point, as an atheist and adherent of evolution, is that I am here because I'm one of the rarest phenomena in the universe, an evolutionary winner. The chances of my existence at all, bearing in mind the billions of other sperms, the thousands of other eggs, the myriad possible combinations thereof, the multiplication of those numbers generation after generation and the sheer scale of death, disease, predation and destruction in the struggle for existence, are as near to zero as you can get without it actually being zero. If I take pleasure in the mundane (which you are confusing with my thanking my lucky stars for being here at all and my desire to make the most of it), then I feel sorry for you if you think that there are "mundane" things in creation or in human endeavour and imagination. I'm glad you like the poetry.