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Thread #149974   Message #3492664
Posted By: GUEST,JTS
20-Mar-13 - 01:23 PM
Thread Name: BS: What is 'Heaven and Hell'?
Subject: RE: BS: What is 'Heaven and Hell'?
Is consciousness hormones and electrical impulses buzzing around in the meat computers we call our brains or is it more?

Do we have souls?

Is there something after death.

Gnu's description makes me think of our souls as binary switches having only two possible values, "self-forgiven" & "Not self-forgiven" I can see that the inability to change these values once you are dead makes them "eternal" ie, not changable from that point on. Also Bill makes a good point that, you have time to influence these values up until the time that you die. He implies that if you want a certain value when you die, you are best advised to work on it now and that implies that the whether or not you are forgiven by yourself depends entirely on you. Forgive me if I have read to much into your statements Bill but I am trying you reconcile your logic with Gnu's.

Christianity in virtually every form says that we can gain forgiveness for ourselves for all of our transgressions at any moment in our lives, including the last moment, by accepting Christ as our savior. Gnu says we judge ourselves. I think that is very consistent with Christian thought. For the trick is not to simply accept Christ's forgiveness, but to do so wholeheartedly, and most importantly in light of Gnu's philosophy, sincerely.