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Thread #150071   Message #3494547
Posted By: Steve Shaw
25-Mar-13 - 07:07 AM
Thread Name: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion
Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion
Ah, so much to come back at (and I will, but time is short this morning). But I couldn't help but pick up this gem:

Some (not including Bill D and Amos) believe as strongly that they are correct and that the religious have no clue as any fundamentalist believes his or her own view is the only correct one.

I have no time for any "atheist" who expresses their standpoint as a certainty. The world's most famous atheist puts himself at 6.9 on his own scale of 0 to 7 with 0 = certainly a God and 7 = certainly no God. He cheerfully subscribed to the London bus campaign that stated "There is probably no God..." I have never, in thousands of posts I've made about faith and religion, said that there is no God. I have said only that the evidence I can honestly glean, and my interpretation of it, suggests that the probability of his existing is vanishingly small. I can't say I don't believe in God because I honestly don't know whether there is one, though my conclusion is that I can happily get on with my life unconcerned about any influence he might have on me now, might have had in the past or may have in the future. Quotes such as the above represent the typically intolerant, ill-considered caricature of those poor souls who are perceived to be not in their camp. The cry of the scared Christian: those who criticise our faith and take a different world view (especially those who express it, and especially especially those who express it bluntly, as bluntly as faiths express themselves with their "certainties") are fundamentalist, we have an atheist faith, we have an atheist belief system, we are evangelical, we are militant, it's really just a perverted kind of religion. Actually, when you think about it, we are none of the above. We literally have nothing to get together and talk about and make plans over. We have no organisation. No schools in which to indoctrinate children. We nearly always merely react. Some of us are quite good at that (I always think it's easier to be good at it when you tell yourself you will not be derailed from rationality). This thread was started by a Christian. Just thought I'd mention it.