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Thread #48907   Message #3495193
Posted By: Jim Carroll
26-Mar-13 - 04:02 PM
Thread Name: Help: Dirty Old Town? Meaning??? (MacColl)
Subject: RE: Help: Dirty Old Town? Meaning???
""Here's a song by a guy called Jimmie Miller."
He was ill-mannered and vindictive as well then?
Sorry - still can't see why MacColl can't be called MacColl and Dylan is never called Zimmerman, and you obviously aren't going to explain.
"Garbage? Utter bollocks? It is possible to have a reasoned discussion here without resorting to such bar-room language."
Sorry - I find it very odd that somebody so ill-mannered as to insist on calling a (fellow?) performer by a name he abandoned back in the 1940s should be so insensitive as not to know why anybody should find that offensive -, more than a little odd to complain about my strong (but perfectly serviceable) language, don'cha think?
Do you really not understand why it is downright bad manners to behave in such a way?
MacColl has been known by that name since some time in the mid 1940s, which pre-dates his writing Dirty Old Town by around 5 years: which is beside the point - he chose that name, he is universally known by that name, he wrote and recorded using that name, I'm damn (whoops - sorry for the language) sure that most young people coming into the scene wouldn't know who on earth you were talking about if you talked about Jimmie Miller - "who he?".
Does it matter - it obviously does to you, otherwise you wouldn't use it given the present circumstances.
It simply is vindictive bad manners on the part of you, your mate Barney - (sorry, still doesn't ring a bell despite the fact that I visited the Herga when it was in the Royal Oak dozens of times - are you sure that's his real name?), and all the other dinosaurs who still wander your part of the planet.
I don't suppose you would explain why you insist on using it any more than you would explain the Zimmermann thing!
Sorry - you are beginning to irritate me - I've already got one of you, thanks all the same.
Jim Carroll