Don... "It all goes back to one basic, and none of the posts have changed that one iota."

Apparently, you missed my post explaining the actual meaning of the concept as it relates to human "life" and discussing the concept's overall importance re the way one lives one's life, which has sweet fuck all to do with religion or any "child's play" carrot and stick crap. Read back. I am sure you will find it among all the nasty, pontificating bullshit about crap that has nothing to do with the OP.

No, don't thank me. It's my job as a superhero.

I thought my work here was done but, alas, no.

I guess my take on this thread is this.

It went south.

I went Wildebeeste!!!

I was told that my OP had been answered and ERGO... any other discussions or whatever were none of my business, thank you very much!

Welllll, seems to me that if the OP was answered (bullshit) then all the crap that ensued should have been posted to threads about all that other crap or a new thread started.

I guess what I am saying is, nobody can speak to a deaf man, especially if he chooses not to hear you. I asked a question. I listened. It was a great discussion until it was ruined. Now I come back to see what is going on and I see the dog has bitten it's own tail... again and again and again.

I know what the concept truly means. Those who try to make it in any way a religious concept or rule and shit upon the concept as it relates to living one's life in a "good" way simply because they perceive it as dictated by a religion do not - if you don't get that, wellll, don't worry... you can't end up in Hell for being stunned as me arse... matter of fact, it almost precludes you will. Be happy in your ignorance!

Go to Heaven you ignorant bastards! >;-)