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Thread #149360   Message #3495559
Posted By: beardedbruce
27-Mar-13 - 01:13 PM
Thread Name: BS: Israel condemned by UN
Subject: RE: BS: Israel condemned by UN
Jim,

"Can you provide evidence to show that Israel did not provide illumination to allow the killing...
"
They provided illumination: YOU are stating it was to allow killing- Please provide some factual basis. Why could it not have been providing light to allow the refugees to move around and get away from the LEBANESE who where attacking them?


"refused to intervene while at the same time demanding that any weapons possessed by the refugees should be handed over,

IF they were refugees, they had no right to weapons: If they were Palestinian resistance who had weapons, they were in combat and either disarmed or were targets.


" actually turn back into the hands of the killers refugees attempting to escape, "

They turned them back, but can you show that they knew it was to be killed? What percentage of those in the camp were killed, and how does that compare with other inter -Arab fighting, such as between Hamas and the PA?



"stood by and watched the massacre take place,

How could they have seen what was going on IN the camp when they remained outside?



"bury the 'evidence' with their clearly marked bulldozers ...."

They gave the use of ONE bulldozer to the militia to help it remove the Palestinian fighters from the camp.



"Then having been found fully culpable by an independent enquiry .."

As culpable AS THE OCCUPYING POWER. The Militia was determined to have committed the acts, and I see NO comment from you about their subsequent inclusion in the Lebanese government. If you can't be bothered to criticise them, how do you justify attacking Israe for it, unless you hold Jews to a different standard than you hold Christians? BOTH peoples are racially related to each other, and native to the region.


"they elected the man found to be in charge as prime minister - a war criminal as the head of State."

As opposed to the Palestinians who selected their war criminals as a government? Yet you have shown support for that. Must be because he was Jewish, and the Palestinian war criminals were not...

"All these facts are documented - if you have any quibble with any of them, produce evidence to the contrary - Keith refuses to do so."


See above.