Yes, Jack it's me.

I have to say that what troubles me more and more about discussions like this is that they are so 'human centred' - there's an underlying assumption that humans live in isolation from the rest of Nature and are 'above it'. To the religious the rest of 'Creation' appears to be a mere detail - an afterthought. The irreligious or anti-religious case too seems to be framed in terms of human pre-occupations.

In a world which is falling to bits around us, I think it's time that we started developing a higher form of consciousness - one which begins to acknowledge the limits of our existence. If we were truly the 'pinnacle of Creation' we wouldn't be carelessly trashing everything in sight.