Wow.Re-reading some of those old threads and remarks sure brings back memories of missing comrades. I was in sympathy with Elsie and made my own futile attempts to argue for a narrower view, and I see I missed several very telling posts by Barry Finn, lamarca, and Frank Phillips in thread 1392 on "California Dreamin'"

Some of you knew, as I did, both Barry Finn and Mary LaMarca as very knowledgeable and eclectic singers and researchers. They seem to have made 'ol Elsie's point better than she did - and then Frank Phillips (who I never met) adds even more!

Max has finally given up on any attempt to limit the discussion to "Folk & Blues" as the original banner read, and the forum reflects that. We will survive.