""i had the great joy on sunday of witnessing a young woman being baptized who was atheist till last year.i wonder if there is hope yet for mudcat materialists! maybe,,,they are just too hardened.""

1. Don't make assumptions! The opposite of Creationist is not Materialist, whatever you may think.

2. I strongly suspect that if you scratched a Materialist with a YEC Creationist, its the Materialist who would be damaged, as probably would a diamond.

Don T.