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Thread #150273   Message #3500315
Posted By: Stilly River Sage
08-Apr-13 - 01:31 AM
Thread Name: John Charles Thomas ID as 'Joseph Toner' refuted
Subject: RE: John Charles Thomas real ID Joseph Toner
Frankly, it sounds like someone has pulled off a hoax at IMDb. Perhaps it is you, Dr. Kaiser?

When I search on "John Charles Thomas" on IMDb it responds with an entry that says Joseph Toner. But when I read the liner notes on my John Charles Thomas cd, it looks like he had such a robust career that this other name would have been common knowledge by now. Or why would it have been necessary? He was a household name in his day. And if you do a YouTube search on John Charles Thomas there are lots of extant films of him sounding and looking like himself, not looking the guy now shown at IMDb.

When I look up "Joseph Toner" I only find Valerie B. Kaiser as the source on any articles. I found this facebook page with an account of something that bears no resemblance to the life of John Charles Thomas.

I had a drink tonight, but I don't think that is enough to make this account as scrambled as it seems to be. There's too much out there about John Charles Thomas for this new identity to make any sense.

I suggest a mudcat moderator working on the DigitalTradition end of things hold on the 'origins' post started by this guest until someone can look into it. I'd hate to see John Charles Thomas disappear because of this allegation that seems goofy to me.

The photo of John Charles Thomas-who-she-says-is-really-Toner?

The photo of "Joseph Toner."

They don't seem to even have the same color of eyes, let alone facial features.

Here is a google search on Valerie Kaiser.

The more I look into this, the screwier it seems. The ONLY person making all of these changes and putting up a Toner YouTube page with Thomas recordings is Valerie Kaiser. Are there any John Charles Thomas scholars around who can confirm or refute all of this activity on behalf of Thomas?

SRS