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Thread #150071   Message #3503481
Posted By: Steve Shaw
14-Apr-13 - 09:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion
Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion
OK Stringsinger, It is my point of view that when you repeat things like

"God is a delusion", "
"Faith can be very very dangerous, and deliberately to implant it into the vulnerable mind of an innocent child is a grievous wrong."

you are insulting a group to which you know I belong, you know Dan belongs to that group as well, and therefor you are insulting me (and Dan)

Hmm. Well Stringsinger is a far less abrasive fellow than I am, and it's my bet that he never sets out to insult anyone. However, he speaks truthfully when he says that it is wrong to implant faith in the mind of a child. Let me put these questions to you, and to anyone else who thinks it's fine to bring up children in your particular faith:

*Do you not accept that your child is born into your religion by nothing more than accident of birth?

*Do you think that a tiny child can possibly understand the complexities and the implications of the religion you are bringing him up in?

*Do you think that your religion is the one true religion?...

*...If not, what gives you the right to bring up your child in your particular religion and not another one?...

*...if so, on what do you base your certainty (taking into account that inconvenient accident of birth) that you are right to indoctrinate your child (bearing in mind that indoctrination relies on the certainty you appear to possess)?

*Why do you not simply satisfy yourself that education (in the true sense of the word) in comparative religion and the history of religion is perfectly sufficient for your child until he reaches an age at which he can decide to accept, or reject, your particular faith of choice? What are you afraid of?

*Did you have your child christened? If so, how do you justify that? And how do you feel about having a child that was a "Christian child" from the time when they couldn't yet speak, think or even focus their eyes? Was that really fair? Why didn't you wait until they were old enough to decide whether they wanted to be a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, or none of the above? What's your excuse? And again, what were you afraid of?

*Did you send your child to a faith school at which you knew they would be herded off to services and force-fed prayers and hymns containing certainties about what might very well be no more than myths? If so, why did you choose that school and not a school with proper secular values?

*Can you, in all conscience, making every effort to be honest and true to yourself, fail to confront a single one of these questions?