>>Well, you see, Jack, no-one here is disputing that parents should pass on their values to their children. But values is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about telling your children that there is a God, that he came down in the guise of baby Jesus, etcetera etcetera.<<

In case you are wondering cringe this is exactly what I was talking about. I doubt you can say things like that to your Christian friends and still remain friends.