Sorry, Ed. I had no idea what you'd tried, and I had no idea you'd get the password thingie. I also wrote "it doesn't always work."When you type in the IP number you gave in the Help Forum, you do get that message. My guess is Max might have *part* of Mudcat there - as in the actual database. If you change the last number to a "5" so it's 204.108.149.105, you get Mudcat.