I suppose even here, wearily, I have to rise to the bait. Only I can't be arsed and others are trying to have a discussion about St George without me being chased around the threads by a rabid idiot full of zeal and his bible in his hand....

You can move to the next post if you wish. This next bit is just for Yo Ho Ho and a bottle of rum.

"Don't worry Blather, no harm in you're lies." Is that the American for "your" or just your lack of education?

My reference to Turkey, which is acceptable by the way; you can give modern geographical references when referring to ancient figures, was nothing to do with Turkey nor indeed Lydia. It was to point out that the patron saint of England was as much to do with England as saint is to do with reality. The gay reference was in contrast to the folk hero worship he gets from the repugnant far right who see him as a folk hero whilst having an aversion to gay people.

(Dave - He may well have been hijacked by gay rights activists. Presumably because he is put on a pedestal by those who don't see gay equality as a right.)