Understandably enough, no one has been sure how to deal with this, and now some comments are here and some on the other page. I'm going to paste the substance of my last comment on the other site, editing out the complaints made when I thought the comments about abuse were being censured. To those who are worried about Bob's family and so on, wake up - the issue now is ONLY about victims, especially those as yet unidentified.

What is at stake is the possibility that other people targeted by this predator can finally feel free to speak out. I posted several days ago anonymously after having spoken to enough people to feel very sure that the allegations were true, not giving my name because as a working musician in the same general field I wanted to avoid controversy. Then, after speaking to enough people to be very certain, I posted using my name. I have been very moderate in saying what needed saying, and I'm telling anyone who cares that, if they follow the story back to the community of musicians in the Santa Cruz area, or to people who know Gary Atkinson who first made the allegations public, you will no longer be in doubt. I don't mind at this point having my name here; neither the perception of me by those who would choose to remain in denial nor the idea that we are besmirching a legacy means a hoot in comparison to the need of this community to look after the harm caused to innocents, however belatedly. Like everyone else, I didn't WANT to believe the truth of someone I knew for nearly 40 years, though not well, and worked with a few times, etc. But the fact is that word has gone out in the musical community that these allegations are true. If you don't want to take my word for it, and don't have access to other people close to the situation, and don't want to believe what people like Atkinson and Daivd Lindley are on record as saying, fine.

As for the rest, read between the lines. Grand jury proceedings in the US are secret, and are followed by a dismissal or an indictment. The story I am hearing is that the indictment was forthcoming, but until it hit, there could be no official record of anything.

The thread at santacruz.com has been plagued by much more of this kind of "it-can't-be-true-because-I-can't-google-it" stuff, often accompanied by name-calling and even attacks on the victims. I'm signing these comments to say that some of us have access to people close enough to know, and we don't need google. And no one this is true of is defending Brozman at this point; that should tell you enough.

Duck Baker