Sans sounds too much like them ruddy Johnny Foreigners what?

Agreeing with Mr Shaw here. You can't come out with racist comments and tag on "but I'm not a racist." However, if your view is a racist one, that is not necessarily something you should work on. You may be comfortable with it, you may feel it necessary if we are not all going to hell in a hand cart.

Just don't expect decent people to respect it. Mind you, some have either moved their opinion recently or are keeping it under wraps, but I digress.

Interesting that Akenaton feels Michael Foot was ridiculed for his appearance. I always thought he was ridiculed because of his Utopian La La land views. Akenaton has inadvertently picked on an interesting person there. Foot's philosophy, which I respect but largely disagree with, required a rest of the world situation that wasn't there. Eurosceptics also require a world that doesn't exist if they feel The UK could prosper without some form of horizontal integration.

Interestingly, even Th*tcher realised this. So did Powell, Barber and most of all Churchill. In the early days, European integration was very much a Tory ideal. They call themselves The Conservative and Unionist Party because they firmly believe in common approach.

Or at least, they did....