The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #150803   Message #3515982
Posted By: Steve Shaw
16-May-13 - 08:58 PM
Thread Name: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
Subject: RE: BS: Strident atheism not a religion
In rational, grown-up debates, I see no harm is asking people to defend their religious faith. Not that you belong to a Catholic church that contains abusing priests, etc. That's your affair. I've worked in schools with head teachers and senior staff that I've hated, but they were not the really important people and I didn't leave. For forty years I've been a member of a trade union that I think has been lily-livered in almost every aspect of what unions are supposed to be for, but I fought from within to try to make it better. You're not guilty just because you mindfully stick with something. But religion in general has been cosseted for millennia. We are supposed to be gentle on religion (it was worse at one time, of course, what with heresy laws and what have you). We are supposed to tolerate religious symbolism and iconography and ceremony as the default settings of society. We get shouted at for suggesting that children should be raised as free thinkers, not shackled to a faith that they belong to only by accident of birth. It's curmudgeonly to criticise harvest festivals in which the laziest bugger in existence is praised for his alleged bountiful gifts (and we ignore the pests and diseases and droughts he puts in our way, of course). It's mean to suggest we deprive little children of the Christmas fairytale with its carols and Christingles. But these things are manifestations of the faith, peddled as truth, that you don't think you should have to defend. I'm not sure about that.