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Thread #150071   Message #3519686
Posted By: GUEST,Stim
27-May-13 - 12:36 PM
Thread Name: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion
Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion
For what it's worth, I like this thought, "The science is our way of explaining a phenomenon that is not science, but which is there in nature and always was and which is true." Given that, we could have a real whiz-bang knock-out drag out fight about the idea of Mars Bars being sweet--

Salient points for me would be:

1)"Sweetness" can be considered a qualitative perception, making it subjective, or, more simply, dependent on the user's experience, whereas the amount of the sweetener that the Mars Bar contained it is quantifiable,making it an objective fact.

2) Mars Bars have a high amount of sweetner, and for many people, high levels of sweetner have a paradoxical effect, that is to say, they are perceived as unpleasant.

3) Mars Bars have a variety of other ingredients, additives, and preservatives, which a number of sensitive individuals perceive as unpleasant and adverse tastes, and which may be the dominant taste that they percieve when they taste a Mars Bar

4) Mars Bars, at least in the US, are generally made with High Fructose Corn Syrup, and not sucrose (for political reasons, sucrose has a high import tariff, and is substantially more expensive.


Points 2 and 3 are not simply rhetorical devices--I've had a lot of interaction with kids who have sensory differences, and it isn't uncommon to have them get very upset about "bad tastes" in candy, cakes, and other treats.


Anyway, this insight into my thought processes should give you a sense as to why I try to keep my comments brief;-)