Sorry, I was the guest at 1.34pm.

I don't know whether Keith's question was only intended for Jim. If for me too, I do question some of the stuff Keith comes out with. Not least his assertion that "thousands" of muslims are out to get us. His position is at best a bit inconsistent. He seemed to accept that 2,000 muslims are deemed to be potential risks (according to MI5) but also that only an unspecified proportion of that 2,000 might go on to plot violence.Someone above referred to Quran 9.5 which I took to mean surah 9, section 5 in an English translation. But I see no words in that section approximating to what was quoted.