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Thread #151015   Message #3522593
Posted By: John P
04-Jun-13 - 09:52 AM
Thread Name: BS: Can all Athiests be lumped together?
Subject: RE: BS: Can all Athiests be lumped together?
Little Hawk, you've just hit on why these discussions can't get very real without a commonly shared definition of "god" and without a clear statement from the believers about what it is they actually believe.

But I think you're wrong about Steve's comments. In a discussion of atheism and belief, one has to assume the believers believe in gods. If they are Christians, one has to assume they think their god has taken a personal interest in their lives, listens to their prayers, and has performed miracles, and that Jesus was a deity. That is the minimum default position. I am fully aware that people who call themselves Christians are all over the map as far as what they actually believe, but we don't have any evidence that Steve's assessment of whether or not that belief makes any sense is incorrect in any way.

It could be said that you are erecting a straw man by willfully misunderstanding or trying to confuse the meaning of the word "god". Christians do actually believe in God, and that believe makes exactly as much sense as Steve said it does. If your beliefs are different, please share them with us so we can talk about them without having to use the default definitions of "god", "belief", and "religion".