OK, Jack ~~ but it was Joe's word 'describe'* that got to me. I might have suggested alternative world views; but where have I made any effort to 'describe' any 'belief'? I don't need to describe any to know that I disagree with their tenets and have nothing to offer me.

~M~

*'The belief that you [Steve] and MtheGM describe' - Joe, 5 June 0922 pm