It seems to me that the US and UK governments are constantly seeking ways to circumvent their own laws with third party help. I would list some examples but I don't want anyone frothing at the mouth. And larehip is right, when it's done it's done. Trouble is that a lot of times we don't know what is being done/has been done in our name until the press breaks the story. Is that how it should work? Why is there such a powerful lobby protecting some freedoms and apparent lack of interest in others?