"I despise anybody who singles out any race, religion or community in order to "hate" them - (Christians, Moslems, Jews, Africans, West Indians) I've always believed that to be racism or bigotry... Jim Carroll .,,. So aren't the Israelis a 'community' then? You may say it isn't the 'community' you continually revert to the animadversion of in any context, relevant or [often, as above] not, but just their government. But they go on electing them, don't they? so communally they seem satisfied with the government they've got, don't they? -- even if they don't quite meet the lofty criteria of Carroll J? The fact that there may be some internal dissent ~~ perhaps even a lot; but when and where isn't there? ~~ is neither here nor there. The fact is that you just have got it in for the Israeli "community". So have I these days, as you know (except my nephew who is a tv producer and an Emin & lives in Karmiel in Galilee]. But that doesn't alter the fact that here is a community you hate. And if you say you don't actually 'hate' it, well I reckon it will do till 'hate' comes along.