you appear to concede more,musket,than mthegm ,who,i am surprised to find does not know that i believe in the God and Saviour revealed in the bible and the theme of christianity since NT times.
the "god" that don "believes" in is so vaugue that i do not know if it/he/she/they-make any difference to anyone.if God exists and is interested in his creation,it is no great stretch that he might step into history [as christians believe he did in Christ] and reveal his message [which christians believe he does through the bible].
while not denying there have been abuses in the church,i do not accept that sharing our faith,or instructing our kids constitutes such.
as to jack,my opinion is that any badmouthing he might be accused of is mild compared to some of the atheists here.
V Tam i note your reasons for not believing and i will not intrude with any unwelcome discussion.i hope i have not offended you where in another thread i mention prayer,and that you take it as my wishing you the very best.pete.