I'd be all for getting a ballad discussion group off the ground in Liverpool. How about those of us are interested try to get there early tomorrow?

Matthew, I wouldn't be too worried about telling the manager that we're discussing rape, murder etc. In all the best pubs in Liverpool they talk of little else. But imagine the look on his face if we told him we want to discuss the Queen of Elfland.

BTW., your request for Get Up and Bar The Door. Would this have anything to do with the geezer who tried to enter while the singing was going on, and then complained bitterly because I asked him to wait?