""and re your Inquisition question, Don ~~ I have already made the point that Islam seems to have reached the stage of development that Xtnity had 500 years ago. The Inquisition was then; the teenager caned for being raped is now ~~ just last year, in N Nigeria. I am sure they will catch up in time. Will that woman being stoned in Riayadh next week, or the young man having his hand amputated in Islamabad, be content to wait, do you think?""

A very nifty swerve Mike! 9/10 for manoeuvreability, but 2/10 for comprehension. LOL

The actual point was that you are using exactly the same tiny portion of the Q'ran to categorise the whole religion, as these rabid, half mad, Mullahs use to instil hatred of us in their young students.

Can you deny that this is just as dishonest a use of that 109 verses, so how do you justify using their methods to make your point, and more importantly, can any valid judgement of Islam itself result from that action?

Relating to the inquisition, I did not advance that as an argument. I stated that it was discredited and dismissed as an argument, and compared it to your argument re Islam.

As far as I can see, such debate distracts from the very real problem, which is these rabble rousingpreachers who are not being dealt with. We have laws against incitement to race or religious hatred, so why not jail them, sharpish?

As to what a minority of sadistic rulers do within their own countries, perhaps if we were to mind our own business and make any complaints through the United Nations, we might have fewer preachers inciting hatred, and fewer terrorists setting off bombs.

I don't recall anybody ever suggesting that this country is responsible for putting the world to rights.

In fact, our best friends right now are the ones we obeyed when they told us to take our troops and piss off home.

Don T.