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Thread #151015   Message #3526868
Posted By: Steve Shaw
15-Jun-13 - 07:21 PM
Thread Name: BS: Can all Athiests be lumped together?
Subject: RE: BS: Can all Athiests be lumped together?
You have proved my point, Steve. You are, my friend, what I would call an "ideological atheist." Relax, and open yourself to other perspectives. Even if they're "wrong," you might learn something from them. You pay only lip service to doubt. Your certainty that others are wrong, is what is most apparent.

'nuff said.


'Nuff said my arse. If you think that repeatedly calling me an ideological atheist will somehow make it more true, you're seriously misguided. There is not one speck of ideology about my atheism. I'm an atheist for one reason (let's see if I can get it into two lines, as I claimed):

"There is no evidence for a God. The laws of nature can probably explain everything, though we do need to understand all those laws first. We are closing in on even the hardest issues still to be explained, and there's no need to interpose an "explanation" that explains nothing, least of all itself."

There ya go. Why I'm an atheist. There's no hidden ideology or complicated set of anti-theological textbooks behind it, unlike your theological tittle-tattle. Like me, it's really simple. By perpetually calling me ideological you are doing no more than indulging in the discredited scallywag's game of equating religion with atheism. By doing this you open yourself up to much-deserved ridicule. Do try to let go of it. As for who's right or wrong, I'm getting sick of telling you that I don't know what the truth is (why don't you listen?): I don't know whether God exists or not. There are good people who adhere to God and there are good people who do not. For someone who espouses religion and who makes his kids go to religious schools and say their prayers, it's a bit rich, to say the least, for you accuse me of paying lip service to doubt. There are billions of people of faith on this planet with whom you cheerfully throw in your lot, yet you have the gall to accuse me of certainty. Well, I must say, that's pretty typical of the narrow-minded religious mindset. The sort of thing you're always telling us you don't personally subscribe to, remember?