"How "common" would you like"
How many incidents before I'm prepared to blame the entire Muslim population of Britain for these atrocities? A damn sight more than the handful you've been able to come up with so far.
Britain has a Muslim population of 2000,5000.
Suggested numbers such as 2,000 suspects (not forgetting the invented "many thousands more" going to fight abroad) have been bandied about here along with your claim is that 'it was their religion wot made them do it'.
Why aren't incidents like these an everyday occurrence if your attempts to implicate all believers are to be given credence – please don't try to claim you haven't – you and Keith have made it abundantly clear on that score?
Nobody has denied that these nutters exist, nor has anybody ever attempted to excuse their crimes in any way - what has been argued from the earliest postings is that these events in no way implicate the Muslim population in general - not just me, but most of those who posted at the beginning of this thread, before you took it over for your soap-boxing.
As far as I'm concerned, the miniscule number of Muslims involved in promoting violence and murder in Britain today are guilty of incitement to violence and murder and should be tried and punished for such, or at the very least, deported.
The Muslim population as a whole are exactly as I described, innocent of any crime or involvement despite your sneering attempts to implicate them via their culture.
You suggested that I had no contact with the people we are discussing – I pointed out that I had and I invited you to compare notes with your own experiences – you failed to comply.
I worked as a self-employed electrician in London for twenty-odd years during which time I met many Muslims. I can't claim any of them as friends – my contact with them was limited to the time I worked for them.
In general, I found them friendly, hospitable and more than happy to discuss both their and my religious views in a friendly and enquiring manner – a far cry from the picture you and your friends paint of the monsters you appear to believe they are. Without exception, they possessed a humanity that has been totally lacking in anything you or your friends have shown in your outpourings of cultural hatred.
In the past we met a number of Muslims on holidays we took in Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Northern Greece, not opportunities to get to know people to any great depth, but our interest in traditional music gave us chances to see them up closer than ordinary holidays would have. We found all we spoke with, without exception, friendly and hospitable, both interesting and interested – never once showing hostility towards a couple of 'infidels'.
My closest contact with a Moslem was a few years ago when I spent a great deal of time in Galway with the Tunisian fiance/ of the daughter of one of our closest friends (later to become man and wife) – we had epic discussions on the various aspects of Christianity, Islam and atheism – we still remain friends.
I won't bother to ask you again to reciprocate with your own experiences as I doubt if you have any.   
So far, none of you have even addressed the points I listed, not even to dismiss them out of hand as is your common practice.   
"....travelled to places like Syria and Somalia to kill unbelievers"
There is a civil war in Somalia following a coup d'état; both the UN and the USA have involved themselves in attempting to bring about peace. To describe it as a fight between Muslims is cynically and manipulatively simplistic in the extreme – like describing the Vietnam War as a fight between Christians and atheists.
http://www.c-r.org/accord-article/endless-war-brief-history-somali-conflict
Describing what is happening in Syria (particularly after your theatrical breast-beating over Homs) as "to kill unbelievers or believers in the other kind of Islam" is beyond belief.
The Syrian troubles started as an attempt to democrotise the country (part of the Arab Spring demonstrations) and was allowed to degenerate into civil war due to inaction by the West, who were happy to stand and watch the slaughter. We have yet to hear your opinion on British and US proposals to arm the rebels (talk about stables and bolting horses!) – I have little doubt you'll be claiming that this is what you argued for all the time.
I'm sure you have no need of reminding of your attitude towards the UN, the US and Britain's refusal to intervene, or your call to supply Assad with riot control gear, or your defence of Britain's having sold "a few" sniper bullets" to Assad, some of which were quite likely to have been used on the streets of Homs.
To describe what is happening in Syria as Muslim against Muslim is sick to the extreme on your part, given your past rivers of crocodile tears for the "poor Syrian people".
Dave
"You people"
I have never at any time responded to your postings in any way other than to attempt to answer your points – that's what I do – no suggestion of your being a "fascist" or any other 'ist'.
You, on the other hand have totally failed to respond to any of my arguments and, along with Laurel and Hardy here, have consistently failed to move from or to justify your position of blaming the religion for this and other atrocities and have refused to consider or even discuss any other possibilities.
I'm sure you are aware of the "dogs and fleas" proverb, but am happy to help out if you aren't – another one for you – "if the cap fits...."
Jim Carroll