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Thread #150885   Message #3527389
Posted By: Jim Carroll
18-Jun-13 - 03:17 AM
Thread Name: BS: Unarmed soldier killed, (London-May 2013)
Subject: RE: BS: Unarmed soldier killed, Woolwich (London)
Dave
I have just trawled through your posts and it appears I owe you an apology - you have not actually taken a stance on this matter - you have said nothing one way or the other on the matter - though on occasion you have given the impression of having done so.
Then what's our argument?
Do you go along with M' and M's vicious diatribe against British Muslims?
Do you go along with Keith's long standing, well established and openly vicious hatred of Muslims, describing their communities as being full of suppressed perverts and harbouring terrorists - an enemy within?
Why has what I have said "clouded by my vendetta against other members"
Why is my finding the views this noxious pair as reprehensible as you appear to find it?
"I need provide no justification for why I do not agree with you on some points"
No - of course you don't - but you do need to say what those disagreements are if you are going to refer to them here - not to do so is hit-and-run trolling.
I make my argument to the best of my ability, and I expect the courtesy of an argument in return if you believe me to be wrong
You don't like the way I argue - tough - I don't particularly like wrestling with fog.
You disagree with me - fine - what do you disagree with?
I say that anybody who butchers a soldier on the streets in no way represents the religion they claim to and should not in any way be seen as representing either their religion nor their community - any problems with that?
I say that this killing has nothing whatever to do with religion but is the act of nutters who have attempted to dignify their lethally brutish behaviour by making it a 'cause' - am I wrong?
I claim that it is cultural bigotry in the extreme to use that act to attempt to smear any ethnic or cultural group in Britain or anywhere - a problem with you?
I believe that anybody who attempts to do so is no better than the racist and bigoted gangs who have made the streets a dangerous and miserable minefields for those who have chosen to make Britain their homes - how am I doing so far?
If you disagree with what I have to say please have the good manners to say what you disagree with it so it can be discussed.
If you go along with Keith and his Jimminy Cricket, have the honesty to say you do so so we know where we stand.
Cheers to you too
Jim Carroll