1. As a neighborhood watch person Zimmerman was not supposed to be armed... That has been reported by a member of a nation citizen's watch association...

2. Zimmerman had a criminal history involving violence and perhaps shouldn't have been allowed to be a neighborhood watch person to begin with...

3. You are wrong as wrong can be, bb about the instigation... Zimmerman has never denied that he got out of of his vehicle... Nor has he denied that he approached Martin... Nor has he denied that he had a gun... This is just simple "common sense" to anyone who has any common sense... Perhaps you don't get it but it is common sense... Had Zimmerman not gotten out of his vehicle (the police told him to stay in his vehicle) then there wouldn't have been a murder... That is plain as day and night... That makes Zimmerman the instigator...

4. Again, Martin had a right to defend himself against someone who had instigated the conflict... You would, I would and Martin tried...

These are the facts of the case... This isn't about what Martin said that isn't related to the case... The only exception would be if Martin knew Zimmerman and made statements that he was going to try to harm Zimmerman... That would be the only exception... That is not that case...

No, I'm not spinning at all here, bb... As you will see as this case goes along what I am saying is what the case is about and what you are saying is just...

...noise...

B~