""You, on the other hand, are saying that because they said it is political it must be true.""

I am not Jim, who has his own take on everything and can defend his own arguments.

I have never said, nor do I believe, they are mad.

What I am saying is that the killer made statements to witnesses, which were reported by those witnesses.

He certainly made reference to a response to the British army killing Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It doesn't matter whether Keith A believes that this is happening.

The killer believes it and it is part of his reason for committing murder.

That religion was also a part of that reason is inarguable.

Keith, however, chooses to believe that religion was the whole reason and deviously ignores or dismisses the political element.

If we accept that the killer believes what he said about Islam, then we cannot choose to deny that he believes what he said about the politics.

Keith is constantly on a soapbox about Islam and Muslims and will go to just about any lengths to demonise the Islamic religion.

Don T.