I thought you would. ;-)

Well, I've actually had phone conversations with Gfs, know the man in real life to some extent, and he's a very bright, reasonable person...very talented musician...and I have no reason to believe he hates gays in the least. I think he feels that politicians are using gay issues to their own advantage these days for quite cynical reasons, and I think the same. We live in a gay-obsessed era. It's much ado about almost nothing, in my opinion. Gays are something I don't worry about at all, in themselves, I see them the same as I see other people (judge them strictly on their individual behaviour TO others), but I do worry some about how various gay-related issues are being used to push people's buttons, divide people against one another, and drive political agendas and snag votes at election time. Going by what Gfs has said in a few hundred posts on the subject, I think that's what concerns him too.

I doubt that being gay has much to do with genetic programming. I think it probably has more to do with subtle psychological factors based on early childhood experiences than anything else. Whether it is innate to a person's makeup or not from the beginning, though, I can't say for sure. In any case, I have no particular objection to it. Why would I? It doesn't threaten my life in any way.

Let's put it this way: if you had a society where gay relationships or bisexuality were considered "the norm", then I think you'd find that most people would freely engage in gay relationships and bisexuality without thinking to question it at all....and that would have nothing to do with genetic programming. It would have to do with culture. If people think of something as "normal", then they will mostly choose to do it without a second thought. If they think of it as "abnormal", they will flinch away from it in most cases (unless they are in a very rebellious state of mind).