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Thread #93508 Message #3533833
Posted By: Bill D
04-Jul-13 - 03:51 PM
Thread Name: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
"...despite my willingness to concede if i dont have an answer."
But Pete.. you always DO have answer. If you don't have a specific answer to a point about science, you resort to the assertion that:
"there are however creationist models that offer solutions."
or "..science progressed very well under a biblical worldview" (it didn't, really)
or "even supposing you are very versed in the specific discipline there are others who interprete the data differently,.."
or "IMO an intelligent creator is much more logical than blind chance"
It ISN'T "blind chance".. it is controlled by laws of physics & causality which we are learning more about every day. In MY honest opinion, I cannot imagine any concept of a 'creator' able to 'make everything'. You are emotionally committed to the idea that it must be so, because we have 'everything'.... more circular reasoning.
Finally, you continually state that there are trained scientists that dispute 'some' of the claims and details of evolutionary theory....while ignoring the fact that 99% of them do not. Some of the trained scientists you refer to begin with the same basic premises that you do, and as such (as I have said before) they are acting as apologists for creationism first and using their scientific training to pick & choose what data or evidence they will accept. If a man brews good beer, and drives a truck to deliver it, you don't necessarily trust that he will drive well & safely. There are specific logical fallacies about that.
Pete... I could post details all day, and you will still go back to one of several ultimate recourses similar to the above...which amount to "I don't agree..."...which translate to : "I CAN'T agree, because I am committed to one form of fundamental Christianity."