The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #93508   Message #3534103
Posted By: Bill D
05-Jul-13 - 02:20 PM
Thread Name: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
To turn your own assertion against you: "it is my opinion ,though i cannot prove it,that the acceptance of evolutionism goes with the rejection of the biblical record.this in turn leads to dismissal of the biblical God."

Buried in that, it seems to me, is YOUR worry...that evolution cannot be believed without denying your basic faith. This is true ONLY if your basic faith is in, as I have said, a LITERAL acceptance of biblical chronology, as if God had dictated it directly to scribes. That is itself unprovable! ....indeed we have only old manuscripts that have themselves been selected (and some ignored), translated and interpreted by 'scholars' who either had a vested interest in ONE theory or were just bad tranlators and researchers. (like the flawed experts I just posted about.)

I maintain that it IS possible to accept both: 1)the message in the Bible and treat it as guidance rather than a perfect narrative and 2)the studies of science- treating them as the details of *how* God designed the universe to work after Creation.

Believing as you do demands rejecting obvious data and research because you fear it conflicts with a *belief*...as you just said. At a certain point, I can only shrug and say, "I cannot debate more with you if you cannot see my basic reasoning about what constitutes 'fair' data and evidence."


I cannot help but remember a ltttle quotation from the writings of Nietzsche, seeking to make a point about human reasoning when he imagined an old woman saying: "Of course it was a just war... my son died in it!"