Jack & Rob-- I am quite aware of Pete's reliance on creationist web sites and his misinterpretation of much of what I discuss with him.
I don't really believe he is 'winding me up', and my seemingly hopeless attempts to show him a better way keeps ME thinking and exploring how to present my arguments. I hope that, whether Pete ever agrees with me or not, he at least sees what I am getting at. Further...if Mudcat lasts another 15 years, there may be someone else to whom this sort of debate is interesting, and I simply want the best answers possible to be presented.

As long as a discussion is civil and no expletives are exchanged, I will 'assume' an honest exchange. Pete & I have so far managed this in spite of sarcasm from the sidelines... *wry grin*

It will be fine....