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Thread #93508   Message #3536588
Posted By: Little Hawk
12-Jul-13 - 12:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
Jack Sprocket, no one can either prove OR disprove the existence of God, because God is not defined as an isolated phenomenon that can BE observed, quantified, proven or disproven through any empirical means. God is not defined as a physically existing thing...nor as a thing made up of atoms, moleculs, waveforms or other such observable phenomena.

God is either inclusive of ALL phenomena...therefore unobservable in any discrete through our senses...or is beyond phenomena altogether.

God may be consciousness itself...or the source OF consciousness. How do you go about observing that? You can't. But you can experience it.

If God is ALL being, then we are constantly experiencing God...whether we know it or not...but we can't observe God, because we would then be included within the totality that is God. If God is the unobservable source of all being (as is asserted at the higher esoteric levels of most great religious traditions, then again, God can certainly be experienced...and is experienced all the time...but cannot be observed, because we can't observe something that is not separate from us in the first place. We can know it...or not know it...but we cannot observe it, because it isn't outside of us to BE observed. We are within it, and so is everything else.

I think when you hear the world "God" you picture the idea of a separate being. That isn't the nature of God, in my opinion. God is the entire continuum OF all existence..."the Aplha to the Omega"...infinite and eternal presence...beyond time and space. All the various things we can observe are separate parts and pieces of that infinite space-time continuum. It is the fact that they ARE finite which makes them observable. God isn't finite. (though some religious people imagine a rather finite God...specially if they are literal thinkers who want a "Daddy" figure they can relate to as if to a very big and powerful human being).