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Thread #93508   Message #3538961
Posted By: Bill D
18-Jul-13 - 10:55 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
"... who fail to provide evidence for darwinist belief."

Fail? What sort of evidence does he....or you.. require? The literature of science is chock-full of more evidence than any one person can evaluate in a lifetime! The evidence comes from various different areas of science, and always confirms the basic facts. Are you willing to subject YOUR beliefs to the same standard of proof?
I just watched the beginning of this video (almost an hour long) in which Comfort does the semantic trick of saying "Upon my conversion, I came to know Jesus as the source of truth and life..." (I think I copied that correctly.) He challenges atheists to be able to make a similar claim. The atheist in the discussion says "Ok... *I* am the way. Everything I say is true". Comfort replies, "Ok..resurrect yourself from the dead, and I'll believe you."
Pete... he does exactly like you in simply stating that...somehow... in 'accepting' the divinity & message of Jesus (or, what someone TOLD you was a truth) that he thereby 'knows'. He is once again using the claim to justify the claim... the famous circular reasoning.
I am not sure he...or you.. are even trying to comprehend the difference between your subjective acceptance of a 'message' and the rational, analytic, ongoing integration of enormous amounts of scientific data... that is, *evidence*.. that evolution IS a fact and that we are merely adding details and refining our understanding of the process.

Any assertion should be subject to various forms of proof and coherence, and science does this continuously. Religion has nowhere to go after making its basic claim. Even if someone found a cave with Jesus name on a big stone, and if everyone shrugged and decided to accept the idea that there was a 'historical' preacher of that name 2000 years ago, the claim of 'resurrection' is essentially another level of claim.

You cannot simply state that "Darwinism" is 'just another type of belief system. Doing so shows a basic error in comprehension as to what a 'belief system' IS! I suspect that Comfort... and you... and most other intelligent fundamentalists... realize at some level that you cannot agree to the proper definition without weakening your position.

A sometime quoted but seldom properly attributed remark quotes an old woman as saying "Of course it was a just war, my son died in it!" (Nietzsche- "Thus Spake Zarathstra"). One can see at once the error of the judgment, as well as the naturalness of the opinion. We humans must monitor ourselves very carefully to avoid that kind of rationalization.