Hi Susan A-R, that's a Fri & there's a singing session in Portsmouth starting around 4 (till 9pm), don't know if I'd be able to make it, that being right at the start of the holidays but there's a chance, if I can I'd be happy to swing by Manchester & you probably could camp out at our place depending on what the family's got scheduled. They know it's useless to give me a heads up so they just give me a day or two notice & we're all better off for it. Let me know what you think & I'll see what we're up to on this end. Barry