True LH.

What's sad is male hard wiring for promiscuity, gay or heterosexual.

What's beyond the pail is exploiting it for the hatred that has been demonstrated on many threads. The smokescreen of concern has been blown out of the water so many times.

Jack. The argument "fuck off" is strong, non hypocritical and genuine. It portrays a position that leaves the other in no doubt as to your view.   Billy Connolly once said that you never read the phrase "Fuck off, he hinted."

I don't wish to catch flies. I wish to swat them. Debasing the important public health issue by being judgemental doesn't help so unless you feel you can alter entrenched positions there is no use in debate. I very much doubt I shall reach a position of "Hey, you know? Bigotry might be the answer after all. "