Guest from Sanity makes a very good point and Ian demonstrates why this thread is necessary.
Ian and Steve have political positions and anything which runs contrary to these positions is deemed "unreasonable", "odious" or "contemptible"

Who makes the decision on what is "reasonable" or not?
Regarding the epidemic of sexually transmitted disease amongst male homosexuals, is it not "reasonable" to want that epidemic curtailed or stopped?
Despite what Ian waffles about, the rates of disease are rising steadily and quickly in that one demographic....Ian and Steve both say that homosexuals need more education, less discrimination and stigma.....well that is what they have been getting for the last decade, with NO positive results. Additionally almost all of the aids budget has been directed towards homosexuals, with absolutely no improvement in their infection rates. To me THIS position is totally unreasonable.
They say I am contemptible for suggesting compulsory testing and contact tracing, yet the health agencies are asking for routine testing of all NHS patients within designated areas.....even people from groups which are hardly affected at all by HIV/AIDS.
They know prfectly well the demographic in which the epidemic is centred, yet political correctness demands that all should be tested in designated areas.......Is that "reasonable"?
I write here with the best of intentions regarding health..this is a very serious problem, ignored by many here, and willfully distorted by a few......Dont lecture me about my views, I want to see disease beaten, not turn my back and pretend progress is being made....it isn't.....just read between the lines of the CDC and HPA conclusions for proof.