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Thread #150703   Message #3549961
Posted By: Jim Carroll
16-Aug-13 - 05:32 PM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Now we seem to have moved away from your disgusting claim that every crime committed by the various Israeli regimes is "Jewish" and therefore everybody who criticises those crimes is an Anti-Semite....
The borders drawn up at the establishment of the State of Israel are the legal borders agreed at the time.
As the maps which have been linked to on this thread, they have been grotesquely distorted and infringes upon by a whole string of regimes made up of serial war criminals whose crimes are matter not of agenda-driven accusation but actual factual record and are included in the list of over one hundred resolutions of condemnation which have been vetoed by the U.S. at the United Nations.
Those crimes include (from the outset of the State) murderous grenade attacks on family homes in order to clear the way for the new settlers, regular incursions into the legally agreed territory of Palestine, the use of chemical weapons, heavy artillery and sophisticated armament by trained troops on unarmed and unresisting civilians, including women and children, the destruction of homes, schools, hospitals (many of these occupied), the building of a Berlin-type wall cutting farmers off from both the wherewithal to feed their families and the means to a livelihood, the deliberate prevention of fishermen from going about their trade, a now eight year blockade which has caused malnutrition – especially among children....... the list is terrifyingly endless.
You could add to this the facilitating the massacre of three and a half thousand unarmed refugees.
None of this is invention – it is all a matter of documented fact – it is the history of the State of Israel.
"proposed letting the Palestinians settle in the other Arab nations"
I am delighted that you have at last had the bottle to put come out of the closet with your 'ethnic cleansing' proposal.
Despite the extreme shrinking of Palestine carried out through the above methods, the present territory occupied is legal and is documented as such.
Go as far back in history as you want with your revolting claims, it is (now only a small part – you have the maps) the Palestinian homeland, and only a re-negotiaton will change that.
That is unlikely to happen because (as you have made clear by your refusal even to discuss the matter) the Israelis are not the slightest bit interested in negotiations unless the end result is their being allowed to hold on to the territory they are now developing illegally, but that they be allowed to continue to expand and build yet more settlements – their present behaviour which you have refused even to acknowledge makes that perfectly clear.
Your suggestion that 'the Palestinian people be allowed to "settle in other Arab nations" is identical to the British National Party's demand that "all immigrants be repatriated, forcibly or voluntarily" ethnic cleansing, pure and simple NO ISRAELI GOVERNMENT HAS EVER DARED TO MAKE SUCH AN OBSCENE SUGGESTION.
Delighted to see you have removed the mask at long last.
That the Palestinians do not want Israel a s a neighbour is not only understandable they would be ******* insane if they did, would you want to live next door to a bunch of armed thugs with a history of serial murderous violence stretching back ha]lf a century or more.
If they lived in Britain they would have been served with an ASBO six decades ago.
Now about continuing to build settlements, invade Lebanese territory and all the other thuggish acts, during a peace conference (we should be so lucky!!!)
Jim Carroll