Stringsinger: "Zionism has broken international laws repeatedly.
So have Islamic extremists. One thing that the two have in common is intractable
religious beliefs. That shows from whence their "laws" emanate."

'Correcto mundo'....Whereas the Native Americans, it was more about 'Spirituality' and the 'unseen'. Imagine if the Native Americans and Nikola Tesla had gotten together!!! instead of the financial industrial barons of the day, that owned the steel, copper and railroads!!..and BTW, the Native Americans, Hopi in particular(as well as others), and the Judea/Christian prophetic texts have MORE in common, than any of the pseudo Christian cults(read 'religions'), who have merged with secular governments, and co-opted each other!! Whereas, the Arabs and Jews are familial, and are actually related to each other!! If you don't know what that's about, just look it up. Don't you just hate it when the world steps into a family squabble??.....(OK, back to the other stuff..)
The Jewish people, after enduring the Holocaust wanted to leave Europe, and return to their homeland, which, at the time was a British protectorate. The British government had in place immigration quotas for that area, and the Jews were flocking back in larger numbers than British 'laws' would allow, and therefore were more restrictive than the Jews were willing to tolerate. So they 'snuck' back in large numbers, using any method they could, including freighters coming in through the British blockades!! (See the classic film 'Exodus' for a pretty accurate account of that period). Once in Israel, there were certain Jewish factions, who wanted complete autonomy, both from the (mostly Arab) occupants of the land, AND the British, who, basically controlled their occupation as a protectorate. Their immigration ceilings, were said to be placed at what they were, because the British didn't think they could handle such a large influx of people, given the infrastructure, at the time.
Certain Jewish groups acted as what today would be called 'terrorists'.
Of course that is all in perception. What is today's 'terrorist', if they are successful, is tomorrow's 'Freedom Fighters' (depending on who wins). Ironic, being as the Boston Tea Party, in protesting Britain's high taxation without representation, dressed up as Native American Indians!!!!...to disguise themselves, and leave room to shift the blame!!!

OK, fast forward: Then there was the The Oslo I Accord or Oslo I, officially called the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements, or Declaration of Principles...and instead of typing a bunch more I'll just Do This.
Now, Israel, since has made concessions to the Palestinians, and claim that the Palestinians have broken that, and every peace or cease-fire treaty since. So they hold their line on their justifications for retaliations, while the Palestinians hold theirs in breaking the treaties. Two things to keep in mind, and this is something that Israelis are well aware of, that Iran, and other Muslim controlled governments, are funding the Palestinians,and others, to 'wipe Israel off the face of the map'..(their words of intention, not mine). The Palestinians, want a homeland, which is completely understandable, as do the Israeli Jews, understandable...However, with a different agenda, the Palestinians are being USED to fight a proxy war for Iran!! (Sorta reminiscent of those 'Indians' at the Boston Tea Party, huh?)..Israel defends itself, Palestinians get beat up, everybody bitches at Israel for being the 'aggressors', and using 'tactics' they learned from the German Nazi's, that beat them up, pre- and during WWII.
A couple of things here...The Brits were not as 'friendly' to the Jews, or Israel, as compared to their expediency for Arab controlled oil...so there still is a left-over bias that the Brits have toward the Jews and/in Israel. You can see that, in whatever posts come from our U.K. friends. Remember, that the Jews feel they were regarded by Europeans as the 'niggers of Europe'.
The other thing to keep in mind, is that the Jews in Israel have a sense that they are fighting for their survival, not only as a nation, but as a people! Virtually every citizen is armed with Automatic weapons and gas masks! That's quite a different mindset than exists in America or Britain, where 'political correctness' has replaced common sense, as a necessity to survive as a people and a nation!!
Also, another thing to keep in mind, is that 'political ideologues' most often USE tactics to combat 'symptomatic' issues to further their agendas, instead of getting to the root of the problems, and their devotees parrot those 'symptomatic remedies'!!!!!..While the 'elite political/corporate leaders' are seeking personal control through greed, and peddle fear to achieve it. Just take a look around!!! (sorta like the political leaders use both the 'right and left', like the Iranians use the Palestinians, and other groups to settle their differences for 'power'!!!! Do ya' think the 'average' Iranian on the street gives a rat's ass about Israel??....only from whatever left over bias has filtered down to them.....sorta like the average Brit and their inclinations on how they view the struggle between the Palestinians and Israel.

Now, I have posted this WITHOUT a value judgement favoring either side of the controversy.....and as any decent psychologist/counselor will tell you, it's PERCEPTION, PERCEPTION, PERCEPTION....much like any accomplished musician will tell you, it's PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE~!!!!

Jim Carroll: "You, he and 'Guest from Insanity' have ignored every scrap of evidence placed before you.
You won't even discuss the fact that Israel continues to build settlements in the middle of peace negotiations, which will, and has probably been designed to wreck any settlement that doesn't allow continuing illegal Israeli expansion of it's territory."

Jim Carroll: "Guest from Insanity has just put it in a nutshell - "They won. It happens" - if you've got big enough guns you are entitled to do whatever you please - the 'Good ol' American' way.
And what a magnificent example he provided in the Native Americans - though I don't think he's bright enough to have spotted it. Take a look at the then-and now Palestine maps and make your own comparisons of what happened to them and what is happening in Palestine - "


Bet me!!!

GfS