The important bit Don.....are the inverted commas "....."
"liberals", only act in a liberal manner to those who agree with them completely, as can be seen from this and many other threads.

In many ways they are more closed minded than conservatives, look at the way people like Ian behave......calling other members "pieces of filth"......"he is fucking evil", do you call that liberal behaviour?

What I would say, is that US contributors to this forum have in general a much better sense of what is acceptable in debate.

As I have said, if there are subjects which are "off limits", they should be made known to the membership......if this is an open forum for debate, crass, abusive, personal insults, should be stamped on.

Most of the membership has been here for a decade, we have come to know one another, self indulgent childish behaviour will make discussion impossible.

Larry it is really easy to see who the abusers are and recognising them does not make anyone an "abuser themselves"
The abusers are those who use personal insults, death wishes and insinuations to shut down discussion on issues that THEY do not wish to discuss. I call them the "silencers" the antithesis of real liberalism.